"We
got two scam emails ...
I read about this scam online... They promise to pay you a cashier's
check beyond your price amount and end up giving a false check
and ripping you off by getting you to refund the difference and
then the cashier's check doesn't clear cuz it's bogus."
Lisa O., Arizona May 10, 2003
Sellers
BEWARE!!!!!!! Internet scams, According to the FBI what I went
through is typical. A person contacted me by E-mail, telling me
he would give me the asking price for my car. He then told me
that some one in the U.S.A. owed him money from another transaction,
and this person would send me a cashier's check for the full amount
owed and I was to send the difference to he shipping company in
the UK (this time). The car was to be readied for shipping and
would pick up by the shippers. His plan was: When I deposited
the cashier's check in to my account, I was to have my bank issue
a cashier's check to a person at the shipping Co. and Fed. EX.
it to him. He would receive the check before the check issued
to me was FOUND TO BE A FRAUD. But they are mainly working out
of Nigeria, and according to the FBI, it is impossible to trace
these people. Because my bank and I realized the check was no
good, and verified, I was not swindled. When I notified him, He
sent two different E-mails, threatening me, in a further attempt
to get me to send money. (I could have lost about 4000.00 dollars)
IF THIS HAPPENS TO ANY OF YOUR LISTERS, TELL THEM TO CONTACT THE
FBI, IMMEDIATELY. MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING SWINDLED OUT OF LARGE
SUMS OF MONEY. There is also an internet fraud web site, but they
are overwhelmed with complaints. So, once the swindler knows you
the seller has contacted the FBI, they will BE GONE! Thanks,
Tony S., South Lake Tahoe, California July 31, 2003
There
is a scam being perpetrated by Nigerians on people advertising
automobiles on the internet and it is beginning to appear that
my deal was such an attempt. The scam goes like this: They find
an advertisement and contact the seller via e-mail wanting to
buy it. Then they want to send more money that the price of the
car with the difference being returned to them by Western Union
moneygram. They send a check marked "cashier's check"
which turns out to be bogus, but unknown to the seller until he
has sent the money. To compound the scam they notify the seller
that circumstances prevent them from completing the deal and asking
for the price of the car back also. In my case they sent a check
for $8000 for the Thing that I was selling for $3000. The circumstances
surrounding the deal arroused my suspicions and I consulted the
bank manager who had heard of the scam and furnished the above
information to me. At the present time the bank is sending the
check through with a 10 day hold on it. No one expects the check
to be paid. So I will probably be wanting to relist my Thing in
your classifieds. I believe I have listed it in your Registry.
Terry H., Cattanooga, TN September
19, 2003
I just wanted to thank you for the scam alert you posted. We also heard from max_wade@mail.gr who tried the same tactic, asking us to take a check 8k over the asking price and return the difference. We of course suspected and asked for proper business identification and have not heard from Max since. But the next day we received two more inquiries from the emails, georgewilliams20032003@yahoo.co.uk and partric_j1@yahoo.com whom we suspect are the same persons as one accidentally replied with the information that we had only given to the other.
I would suggest that sellers use paypal or some other source of safe internet payment system as it seems scammers do not necessarily go away when confronted.
I will tell you that I was a victim of the fraudulent cashier's check scam going around. I thought I had sold the cars, and unfortunately discovered the money was no good. Luckily I didn't loose the cars in that deal, however, I did get burned and lost money. When I finally did sell the cars, I had to give the bank all the money to make up for being scammed <sigh>. Unfortunately the warnings on your website showed up too late to help me out..... Diane K., Winchester, VA March 3, 2004
[Actually, this alert has been up since May 10, 2003. She may have saved herself a lot of grief had she read this Alert when she placed her ad.]
These crooks with the bogus cashiers checks are flooding me with emails. Thanks for your services and time. Rick P., Cave City, AR May 1, 2004